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		<title>By: Rational Survivability &#187; Private Clouds: Your Definition Sucks</title>
		<link>http://cloudenterprise.info/2009/01/16/no-real-private-clouds-yet/#comment-342</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Rational Survivability &#187; Private Clouds: Your Definition Sucks]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Jul 2009 23:24:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] in which he referenced and lauded Dimitry Sotnikov&#8217;s blog of the same titled &#8220;No Real Private Clouds Yet?&#8220;  I continue to scratch my head not because of David&#8217;s statements that he&#8217;s yet [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] in which he referenced and lauded Dimitry Sotnikov&#8217;s blog of the same titled &#8220;No Real Private Clouds Yet?&#8220;  I continue to scratch my head not because of David&#8217;s statements that he&#8217;s yet [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Dmitry Sotnikov</title>
		<link>http://cloudenterprise.info/2009/01/16/no-real-private-clouds-yet/#comment-94</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Dmitry Sotnikov]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Jan 2009 12:16:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Karl,

There&#039;s definitely some terminology confusion here. What you are talking about is a datacenter vendor (in your case, AT&amp;T), leasing to you a part of their datacenter and probably setting up VPN or something to make it appear as part of your network.

What I mean by private cloud is a completely different thing: 

I am talking about companies wanting to use the hardware they have in their own datacenter and put some kind of &quot;cloud OS&quot; on top of that so their can have the flexibility and scalability that Amazon and other are getting but within their physical network under their control.

There&#039;s a lot of the former - but not so much of the latter yet.

Dmitry]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Karl,</p>
<p>There&#8217;s definitely some terminology confusion here. What you are talking about is a datacenter vendor (in your case, AT&amp;T), leasing to you a part of their datacenter and probably setting up VPN or something to make it appear as part of your network.</p>
<p>What I mean by private cloud is a completely different thing: </p>
<p>I am talking about companies wanting to use the hardware they have in their own datacenter and put some kind of &#8220;cloud OS&#8221; on top of that so their can have the flexibility and scalability that Amazon and other are getting but within their physical network under their control.</p>
<p>There&#8217;s a lot of the former &#8211; but not so much of the latter yet.</p>
<p>Dmitry</p>
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		<title>By: karl prosser</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Jan 2009 00:55:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[AT&amp;T and the like can easily do fully private clouds on an NPLS network with total virtualized everything from server farms to firewalls.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>AT&amp;T and the like can easily do fully private clouds on an NPLS network with total virtualized everything from server farms to firewalls.</p>
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